Walt is back! Breaking Bad returns. - by SubJeff
Rug Burn Junky on 10/10/2011 at 01:10
Only an hour away from the finale, and I'm psyched. I was concerned during the middle episodes, but the past couple have been brilliant, especially Gus's backstory.
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http://www.wtfpod.com/podcast/episodes/episode_216_-_bryan_cranston) Cranston was on Marc Maron's WTF Podcast this week, and all it did was make me antsy. It's a great discussion about the show, but the most interesting part is his own life-story - working with carnies, being wanted for murder. As vanilla as his image is from Malcolm in the Middle, the dude has enough life experience that you can see what he brings to the table.
But the best part, is the last couple of minutes where he describes the very end of the season and the last camera shot (no spoilers). If you have a moment before watching tonight's episode, I'd take a listen.
Scots Taffer on 10/10/2011 at 02:34
Dying of anticipation. Will get it as soon as I get home... the best part though, I won't be able to watch it until Clare catches up... so I'll have to sit through ep 11 again. :D
edit: holy shit I'm SOOOO psyched after listening to that
edit edit: sounds like Walt is definitely responsible for poisoning Brock... some of the more intrepid BB fans had postulated that the potted plant the gun pointed to as he spun the gun at tjhe pool was a poisonous lilly. If so, wow, but they need to do a bit of backpeddling in terms of laying out that story better because otherwise the way it unfolded seems highly circumstantial.
Rug Burn Junky on 10/10/2011 at 05:35
Godfatheresque.
Renzatic on 10/10/2011 at 06:09
Quote Posted by Scots Taffer
Walt is definitely responsible for poisoning Brock... some of the more intrepid BB fans had postulated that the potted plant the gun pointed to as he spun the gun at tjhe pool was a poisonous lilly. If so, wow, but they need to do a bit of backpeddling in terms of laying out that story better because otherwise the way it unfolded seems highly circumstantial.Big blocks 'o blue coming up!
...and they were right. While I wouldn't write it off as a pulled-out-of-our ass moment, I mean it is something Walt would be more than willing to do at this point in his life, it does leave alot of floating variables in play here. To me, it'd only make sense if Walt were intending to poison Brock to manipulate Jesse around the time they got into their little fist fight. That was the only moment he'd have the opportunity to lift the Ricin laced cigarette without being blatantly obvious about it, To leave it alone, and just hope Jesse loses it would've left far too much up to chance.
And even when we figure out the missing Ricin was nothing more than misdirection, and Brock was actually poisoned by a rather common Flower of the Valley berry...er...when did Walt have time to administer it? When he visited Jesse shortly before his desert firing? He didn't get anywhere near Brock, and couldn't do much of anything with anything without risking poisoning everyone else.
We obviously haven't been privy to every moment of Walt's life during those desperate few days, so the whole scheme isn't totally out of the realm of possibility. Still, it would've been a tight save on Walt's part.
Oh, and Gus' death? Over the top? A little too comically gory for a show that, up to this point, has been rather gritty and realistic? Yup. But despite that, was it a brilliant offing? Oh hell yes. Every single bit of that scene was a constant tease, purposefully designed to keep you anxious and squirming up until that point of no return when you see him hit the floor. I couldn't think of a better way to send Gus off. Even grievously injured and in an obvious state of shock (and you don't get much more shocked or grievously injured than what happened to him), ole Gus was cool, calm, and collected til his last breath. He stumbles out, shows that last bit of imperturbable dignity even in defeat, and keels over dead. Gotta say, I'm gonna miss him being around in the last season.
Of course we were all probably going "HOOOLLLLYYYY FUCCCCCKKKIIINNNNNGG SHHHHIIIIITTTT" the entire time.
But even that cool, calm collectiveness couldn't save Gus. Not when he's up against Walt, who we all now know is a smart, cold hearted bastard, willing to do anything to anyone to get what he wants. This season ends completely different than the rest we've seen. Walt isn't in trouble. Isn't barely hanging on in some tense do or die situation. Quite the opposite. To quote his own words, he won. He's safer and in more control than he's been during the entire run of the show. Everyone who stood in his way is now gone (save for Mike, and who knows what he'll do, or which way he'll go). That makes me even more tense to see what will go down during the final hours of the upcoming season. Because you know, you KNOW, it's gonna be huge.Also bonus bragging points for me, because I knew exactly what was going to happen before it happened. Didn't make that one scene any less tense or shocking though.
Scots Taffer on 10/10/2011 at 06:19
FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
The Alchemist on 10/10/2011 at 10:25
I was always interested in this show, but I only started watching it today when I saw TTLGs discussion about it. I'm just on ep 2, the bathtub through the floor scene...
frozenman on 10/10/2011 at 13:49
Fuckkkkkk meeeee
I keep thinking back to the conversation between Gus and Walt....season 3? Early 4? Can't remember. Shortly after Hank had been shot, where Walt tells him above all he appreciates the strategy. Boy what a play that was Walt.
As far as how/when Walt was able to administer the poison, could it be possible that Saul helped in this aspect? He was delivering checks to Andrea and I don't see Saul as being above those kind of actions, particularly if Walt can convince him that this particular poison won't in fact kill the child, just make him very sick. Oh fuck but then how did the ricin get out of Jesse's cigs.
Thirdly, how was Walt able to walk so easily into the meth-lab after the explosion? Was the thug that he used as cover to sneak in the same guy who drove Gus to Casa Tranquila? By this point I was fried.
Finally, as a testament to the depth and execution of his character, I can almost see Walt in 5 or 10 years appearing on a 60 Minutes or Dateline NBC tell-all of being a meth-cook. Not that he necessarily would, but it's almost as if I've already seen it...?
The Alchemist on 10/10/2011 at 14:24
Fulminated mercury! Badass.
SubJeff on 10/10/2011 at 18:33
Oh man.
Walt really has flipped! I'm glad/sad to see Gus go; he was a nasty bastard but you had to respect his awesome composure and planning skills.
Season 5 - Breaking Bad: What would Mike do?
Renzatic on 10/10/2011 at 19:49
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
Oh man.
Walt
really has flipped! I'm glad/sad to see Gus go; he was a nasty bastard but you had to respect his awesome composure and planning skills.
Walt, on the other hand, has been shown to be more than willing to put at risk everything and everyone, innocent bystanders, family member, friends, and colleagues alike to make ends meet. He isn't a complete monster, mind. He's not so callous that he doesn't care about these people, and is obviously relieved when things turn out alright for everyone he's suckered into his scheming. But he still does it, and doesn't have a problem doing it, as long as he comes out ahead in the end.
Walt is too narcissistic, way too volatile, and way too loose with his morals. He's about the last person you'd want in a position of power. Contrast with Gus, who's calm, professional, and levelheaded, and you'll see that he really was the lesser of the nasty bastards here. Hell, you could almost say he was a good guy of the story, simply because he was the one thing keeping the currently more experienced and competent Walt away from the world at large.
And now he's dead.Quote:
Season 5 - Breaking Bad: What would Mike do?