BEAR on 9/5/2012 at 05:07
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17997794)
The shame is still settling in, but in some way I feel like this is going to be a wakeup call for the state and hopefully my whole fucking country. These people are not the majority, they just vote like motherfuckers. The turnout wasn't above 40% and with the vote being held smack dab in the middle of finals week for almost every college student in the state (and we have like 100 god damn colleges), I know who made up most of that 40%.
Sorry to rant. I think things are going to have to get much worse before they can get better, as intelligent people still can't see through this bullshit. November will be a new low I suspect.
Anyone know how
just how hard it is to get Swedish citizenship?
Thirith on 9/5/2012 at 05:41
This sort of crap should be justification enough for anyone from the States to go to Sweden as a political refugee... Seriously, I don't know whether this crap makes me more angry than sad or vice versa; I'm definitely feeling plenty of both.
Queue on 9/5/2012 at 13:33
I can see this happening in South Carolina.... But North Carolina!? My God, the end days are coming.
And maybe they all just thought "GAY" was an acronym for cousin. That'd certainly explain the 40% against rating.
Vasquez on 9/5/2012 at 13:44
I'm getting old, shit like this just makes me really sad.
Thirith on 9/5/2012 at 13:50
A lot of the time I can tell myself, it's the sort of backlash that accompanies things getting better on the whole... but sometimes it's difficult to believe that this is the case.
Also, sometimes it is difficult not to fear that America is on its way to becoming a reactionary, chauvinist shithole of a theocracy.
demagogue on 9/5/2012 at 14:25
Ugh, haven't these people learned the lesson from Prohibition? Constitutions are about mechanical procedures & general rights. You don't go around throwing in specific legislation like it were a municipal ordinance and flap your arms: we *really* mean it this time! Then 10 years later they grow up & look back at it with a hangover and think WTF was I thinking? ... Well, you'd hope they'd grow up. :erg:
Quote Posted by Thirith
A lot of the time I can tell myself, it's the sort of backlash that accompanies things getting better on the whole... but sometimes it's difficult to believe that this is the case.
Yeah, this is an argument I read a lot in political theory. The worst regimes are the ones where the old-regime is so taken for granted that worry about change isn't even on the radar. But when you have the old regime lashing out with a lot of venom, it's a good sign it's on its deathbed and they've already lost the moral fight.
Sombras on 9/5/2012 at 14:51
I think I saw last night that such measures have passed in 32 out of the 33 states that voted on them. The right to same-sex unions (and, depending on the wording of the legislation, even heterosexual, non-married unions) is suffering a horrible losing streak. Bald-faced bigotry, man--no other way to express it.
BEAR on 9/5/2012 at 15:05
Its got to happen. People aren't going to really wake up and start taking this shit seriously until the vocal minority of old white people start fucking things up enough that it affects your daily life.
There is already talk of a repeal but I'm sure that will be harder than it getting passed in the first place.
America is experiencing a cultural clash and one side is going to die out a lot sooner than the other, but they are going to hold on to their beliefs till the last breath. Cant wait till I'm in my 50's and can finally fuck it up for all the young people then!
Chimpy Chompy on 9/5/2012 at 15:09
I guess I find it hard to get inside people's heads and understand such vehement objection that they'd go rewrite a constitution. What's bad about gay marriage? How does society suffer? Any argument based on "god doesn't approve" should be immediately discarded in a supposedly secular state.
It also strikes me as odd when people talk about "defending traditional marriage". Because even if those ungoldy homos get to wed, traditional marriage will not be changing, or coming under attack. And therefore doesn't need defending. They should be honest about being the ones trying to attack something, rather than valiant defenders.
Shug on 9/5/2012 at 15:35
I think it is important that the state of North Carolina's laws are compatible with the laws of nature but, more importantly, with the laws of God.
