Fragony on 15/3/2010 at 12:37
I kinda agree with him, people whine over nothing. The Diablo 3 example is pretty telling.
Poetic thief on 15/3/2010 at 15:37
The problem with this article is that he is throwing the baby out with the bath water. There is legit criticism that only the oldest fans of a game can make. Not all criticism from old fans should be discarded as "complaining"
If the new game is different enough from the old game, then they might as well just give it a new name entirely.
I actually had a LOONg back and forth with D (a developer from Bioware) over this very issue. We focused on Fallout 3.
The point I made to D is that the oldest fans of a game have a right to voice their opinions because they are the ones who contributed the most to keeping the game alive via mods. This was especially true in the Fallout modding community. If a developer takes in no input from these old fans, then what game exactly are they making? As I said above, it might as well be a new game.
D saw things differently, however. According to him, these old fans are just jaded people and they represent a very small but very vocal minority. So basically game developers should focus mainly on the larger, less vocal fanbase because that's the one that will give them the most money.
It always comes down to money these days. This is the real reason why the days of classic pc gaming are over. And I'm not even an old fart (college student).
Shadowcat on 15/3/2010 at 15:55
Quote:
basically game developers should focus
mainly on the
larger, less vocal
fanbase Did you mean to write that? If you'd just said "audience" or "mass-market" then I might have sided with you, but I find it extremely hard to disagree with someone who aims to satisfy as many existing
fans as they possibly can.
Poetic thief on 15/3/2010 at 16:28
Quote Posted by Shadowcat
Did you mean to write that? If you'd just said "audience" or "mass-market" then I might have sided with you, but I find it extremely hard to disagree with someone who aims to satisfy as many existing
fans as they possibly can.
D meant audience or mass market. I was using the term fan loosely.
Ha ha, it's nice to be reminded every now and then about the importance of being precise.
june gloom on 15/3/2010 at 18:39
There's nothing wrong with catering to the fans a little. The problem with the Fallout fandom is that they are basically impossible to please- remember, they hated Fallout 2 for not being Fallout enough, until Tactics and the console game came out and they had something new to hate. When a guy told NMA he beat his exasperated girlfriend for demanding he just try Fallout 3 before raging about it 24/7, instead of the normal response of "that's fucked up" or "i hope she called the cops" or possibly banning the dude they praised him and told him to "dump the bitch." Die-hard Fallout fans are not human.
Bluegrime on 15/3/2010 at 18:47
Dosen't seem like the guy writing these satires is all that bright, tbh. It looks like something you can find on almost any gaming forum, and is about as well composed. Plus both articles posted in this thread stopped being entertaining before hitting the half way mark, and then bravely pushed on with the more Gilbert Gottfried voiced "irony".
Fragony on 16/3/2010 at 07:17
Quote Posted by dethtoll
There's nothing wrong with catering to the fans a little. The problem with the Fallout fandom is that they are basically impossible to please- remember, they hated Fallout 2 for not being Fallout enough, until Tactics and the console game came out and they had something new to hate.
Fallout 2 was kinda meh dunno why, I liked tactics though. But I am guilty of this as well. I hated Thief 2 when it came out, I nitpicked it to death it couldn't do anything right for me. I hated the new setting and the lack of horror. But Thief 2 is an exceptional game and I failed, fell in love with it, got over my reluctance to admit that it did so much right. I do really hate Deadly Shadows though, with a passion.
