Judith on 16/2/2018 at 06:51
Thank guys.
Qolelis, unfortunately that's no joke. I can tell you about two cases that I know of. One is a work colleague, who has two jobs, one from 7 am to 3 pm, second from 4 pm to 9 pm. She basically sleeps through weekends. She also decided to take postgrad studies, so every other weekend she's has classes, 8-10 hours a day. Lately, she was admitted to a hospital because she was unable to move her left arm for a minute or two, and when she tried to speak, she just mumbled.
My uncle wasn't so lucky. He was a workaholic, very ambitious programmer, living and working abroad. He always tried to prove that he's the best, worked long, late shifts, drank tons of coffee and smoked like a chimney. He didn't get any warning, his body just gave up at some point. He's basically a plant now. He lost his ability to speak, his movement and gestures are severely impaired, so his career is over.
Do with that what you will, but from what I saw, there are no winners in this game.
I also have this tendency to work hard on something until I finish it, because otherwise it stays at the back of my head all the time. But stuff like modeling and texturing takes ages. I need around one week, 3-4 hours in the evening every day, to design a hi-poly and low-poly model, and another week for texturing/materials. That's apart from having a job, daily duties etc. If I didn't do any breaks between such sessions, I'd probably be dead by now.
Starker on 16/2/2018 at 08:41
I know that the work I do well-rested is much better than the one that I do while sleep-deprived. Probably to the extent that I get more done due to less time needed for correcting mistakes.
qolelis on 16/2/2018 at 18:36
Alright, alright, hold your horses, all jokes aside, and full disclosure:
I am aware of the risks, especially after my former boss had a stroke a couple of years ago. She worked as a professor (at the university I went to and worked at for awhile), and also head and director of various departments, plus had a family, so lots of stress and responsibility. She recovered, but it took some time (and I don't know to what degree, but as far as I know she's still working at her old job). She is older than I am, not by much though I think, but I have only a fraction of the same responsibility. I also had a grandfather with a heart anomaly, apparently hereditary, but I was never found to have that.
I don't do alcohol, don't smoke, don't do any other drugs, and try to eat healthy. I've never had high blood pressure, nor excessive amounts of body fat (the opposites are not without risks, though). I also don't drink coffee or energy drinks (etc) to stay awake, so it happens that I take short naps during a longer shift (when not napping I stay awake through the right choice of music or through hyperfocus alone). None of this makes me immune, but lower the risks. I also don't do these longer, around-the-clock shifts as often any more, because I know I no longer recover as fast as I used to. There are also periods of low activity when I don't work at all, and instead get out more, sleep more, or play a few games.
What I'm mostly doing wrong is sitting too much, not getting out as much as I could, and eating and sleeping too irregularly. Other risk factors are social isolation and a lack of physical communion. I'm trying to fix this, but I find it hard to maintain on my own.
I have noticed a freer, less inhibited flow of ideas directly from brain to hand when having stayed awake for a while -- at least for manual tasks like free landscaping, while not so much for more mentally challenging tasks like programming. This doesn't mean I recommend it or that I couldn't get sufficiently similar ideas some other, and perhaps healthier way, but that is what I have noticed. I can get good ideas or solve intricate problems during a long walk or even while sleeping too -- and maybe that's enough -- but that free flow is unique and a bit of a high I must admit.
I don't have kids or anything else that stresses me out or keep me awake while not working. Right now I'm also priviliged enough to be able to do this full time and still enjoy it. My current situation won't go on forever, though, so I am aware of the stress.
Edit:
Thanks for your concern, it's appreciated.
WingedKagouti on 16/2/2018 at 20:57
Quote Posted by qolelis
Alright, alright, hold your horses, all jokes aside, and full disclosure:
As long as you take the situation seriously and don't try to just power through. The older you get, the long it will take you to properly recover from a long session and 20 hours of "sleep" can be just as damaging in the long term. You would probably find more benefit in 7-9 hours of sleep, followed by 4-6 hours of activity and 7-9 hours of additional sleep.
And just remember that (
http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/679004-captain-america) this Captain America picture was made by Rob Liefeld while he was pulling an all-nighter (according to some sources). And he thought it looked great at the time and forced it to print (even though the editor protested). He later realized his mistake, but by that point the comic had already been sold in stores.
Creative works
may flow easier while you're not fully rested (or on drugs), but you also risk putting together something that doesn't really make sense in any other state of mind.
qolelis on 17/2/2018 at 00:24
I'm aware of that problem too, and so far, things from all-nighters have withstood the test of returning to them when well-rested. I meant to write that in my previous post, but it disappeared when switching things around. Sure, if there's a deadline and you pull an all-nighter to meet it, there might not be time for second checks, and, well, I don't really mean to defend the all-nighter, just point out some of its properties. I know it's not good in the long run.
Quote:
And just remember that this Captain America picture was made by Rob Liefeld while he was pulling an all-nighter (according to some sources). And he thought it looked great at the time and forced it to print (even though the editor protested). He later realized his mistake, but by that point the comic had already been sold in stores.
Haha, yeah, that looks like crap -- although, as the
objective person smartass I am, I cannot but wonder
which sources.
A friend of a friend once tried writing poetry when high, which was apparently the best he had ever written -- or so he thought: reading it after coming down, it was the most banal crap you could ever imagine. I have written stuff while dreaming, which in the dream was genius, but not so much when awake (something about "making shoes out of cheese").
henke on 20/2/2018 at 18:24
aaaaaaaaaaAAAAAHHHH I DONT UNDERSTAND QUATERNIONS
Pyrian on 20/2/2018 at 19:28
It's just a Vector4. Instead of (x, y) or (x, y, z) you've got (x, y, z, w).
...Oh, do you mean Quaternions as rotations? I have no idea what that's about, and haven't bothered learning despite working with rotations extensively. I just use the Euler stuff, lol.
EDIT: I just browsed (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternions_and_spatial_rotation) . ...Eff that, lol.
Nameless Voice on 20/2/2018 at 20:14
Find library. Use utility function to convert to Euler. Save your sanity.
henke on 21/2/2018 at 06:19
Stop trying to fix it, I just need a witness to my pain! :(:(:(
also yes I usually just use Eulers
demagogue on 21/2/2018 at 12:49
Interesting, was just reading about that for Darkmod because we were trying to get a door to open at an angle against the ground, like a door going down to a cellar. In the end it turns out you can just attach the door to an angled plank and then it zeros the rotation as far as the door is concerned; you just type in 90 degrees rotation on the z axis and it does it against the plank's angle ... which was a huge relief because like Pyrian said eff the quaternion rotation way to do it. Even the Euler way to do it is a huge headache because you'd have to do it as a sum of square rotations, like scripting simultaneous rotations along all three square axes.
