Jason Moyer on 29/3/2011 at 22:09
Quote Posted by lost_soul
... to try and convince publishers to go back to making games the way they did in the 1990s.
The way they do things now = larger revenues = happier shareholders = the way they did things in the 90's loses. Sorry to shatter your illusions and stuff.
Pyrian on 29/3/2011 at 22:51
Quote Posted by Slasher
He wanted Bill Gates to fly down and
meet him and give him the Mercedes, not fly
into the Mercedes.
...
I, for one, would settle for Bill Gates flying into a Mercedes hard enough to wreck it. :D
june gloom on 29/3/2011 at 22:55
I, for one, am confused as to whether I accidentally went to slashdot.
demagogue on 29/3/2011 at 23:47
Quote:
The beauty of the pc as a platform is that no one decides what you should do on it, so who are people to decide that casual gamers can't have their stuff on pc?
The future of pc gaming has proven to be steam and an abundance of self-publishing indie games.
This is what I think.
Man, in the long run we won. Computers & a lot of core software are open... Not universally, but open enough to have basically anything you want. And if things go according to plans handheld devices & phones & pads, etc, will be too.
The double edged sword is that game development is cut throat ... anybody can make a game, most tools are open to anyone now, it's labor intensive and risky. So that leaves two major avenues, big institutions with capital to make polished conservative games, and self-publishing indies with heart to make rough experimental games, and it squeezes out the small developers and risky polished games. That squeezing is unfortunate, but I think it's ok this way all things considered -- to have that sword and the squeezing than to not have the sword at all (to put it awkwardly).
That is, I'd rather game making & PCs be as open as they are now in this situation, than even the 90s where the industry was more inspired but adolescent and all the tech was almost totally closed off.
EvaUnit02 on 30/3/2011 at 19:44
Quote Posted by lost_soul
I'm actually interested in Duke Nukem Forever. Somewhere, buried deep within the game lies the Unreal 2 engine. This was a cross-platform, tweak-able engine with good potential for fan-made projects. Perhaps it will satisfy me.
ALL PC copies of DNF will use Steamworks. So 13 years of waiting and the only thing stopping you from playing it will be your stubbornness to face the realities of the current climate in the industry.
Windows will remain the home of core audience PC gaming, developers won't abandon the much needed software API standardisation of DirectX either and services + digital distribution retail channels like Steam are the future of the market, like it or not. Lunix adoption will never takeover the mainstream either, sunshine.
gunsmoke on 30/3/2011 at 21:44
Quote Posted by EvaUnit02
Great point...
*claps*
june gloom on 31/3/2011 at 00:22
Don't bother, guys, he's delusional, he'll never learn.
jtr7 on 31/3/2011 at 00:51
Quote Posted by Pemptus
People bitch and moan about games they'll never buy all the time on these forums. Not sure how he's any different.
Yes. Until the games are made with higher standards, we won't buy those stupid games, and we'll express why we won't. That doesn't include the traitors who bitch and buy anyway.
Quote Posted by dethtoll
Don't bother, guys, he's delusional, he'll never learn.
Or Internet is garbage in his region. A constant real life reminder of the haves unnecessarily fencing out the have-nots.
june gloom on 31/3/2011 at 03:24
What does having shitty internet (which lost_soul has yet to ever mention) have to do with being a delusional entitlement whore- worse than even you?
Seriously, I know you don't really come out of Thiefgen enough to know about lost_soul's reputation (and to be honest, I'd hope you don't start) but believe me when I say he's earned that reputation.
EvaUnit02 on 31/3/2011 at 04:29
Quote Posted by jtr7
That doesn't include the traitors who bitch and buy anyway.
"Traitors", really? :rolleyes: You will NEVER be in any position to judge a game without having played it. Your opinion will completely lack any credibility and will not be worth addressing during serious discussion.
Square Enix Europe aka Eidos are big fans of Steamworks as well. The Last Remnant, Just Cause 2, Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light, Kane and Lynch 2... they all used it. So, good chances that Deus Ex 3: HR and Thief 4 will as well.
If so then the drama will glorious, if that Cardia thread was any indication. I'll book front row seats and have my extra butter popcorn ready.
