Gestalt on 22/3/2006 at 18:05
DarthMRN: The question you should be asking yourself is "Why would anyone betray the trust of people they've worked with for months or years and undercut the impact of their own work in order to spoil the story for me?"
If you can come up with a case for doing that which doesn't boil down to "I'm impatient and people should give me what I want", I'd certainly like to hear it.
Jarkko Ranta on 22/3/2006 at 19:59
If it's about Hammerite's "golden age" there should be swords more than usual. No question about it. Also, as the major religion in the City, more common folk should be found amongs the Order (Truart's ancestors also supported the Order's cause) and there also should be a chorus. Singing praises to Builder. Chorus.
DarthMRN on 22/3/2006 at 20:53
Yeah, Gestalt. Maybe I'll come up with something when you tell me you didn't make any effort whatsoever at finding and reading/watching/hearing stuff about TDS or any other bleeding game/game series you're interested in before they were released.
If the reason, "I'm impatient and people should give me what I want", is unusual and egosentric, then gamers everywhere wouldn't dig up and broadcast all the pre-released information they find for such anticipated games. A huge part of the interest and demand for websites such as the Circle and TTLG is anticipation of upcoming titles, sharing of knowledge and spoilers (for they who are so inclined) and discussion of what these games might feature. If digging for knowledge of an unreleased project is a sin, especially when the official knowledge is mediocre at best, then any game fan who ever read or shared such info, yourself included, is a sinner.
When you tell me you didn't waste a single second finding and reading anything about TDS or T2X before they were released,
then you can sniff the sky from your high horse. You wanna be spoiler free? Thats your business. Don't lecture me about it. Im as impatient and spolier-hungry as I damn well please!
EDIT:
Question:
Quote Posted by Gestalt
"Why would anyone betray the trust of people they've worked with for months or years and undercut the impact of their own work in order to spoil the story for me?"
Answer: As you put it
Quote Posted by Gestalt
"I'm impatient and people should give me what I want"
Good enough for you?
Gestalt on 22/3/2006 at 21:10
When the team working on a project agrees to release new information or do an interview or whatever, it's not the same thing as when someone leaks something to the public.
You aren't expressing a desire for a few more screenshots or something like that, you're asking for someone on the team to leak information. I read previews sometimes, but that's not the same thing as pestering devs to tell me things that would ruin surprises they have planned.
Your first post didn't bother me. It's when you started to imply that social and personal concerns like loyalty don't matter that you started to get irritating.
DarthMRN on 22/3/2006 at 21:22
Hey, thats perfectly cool, man. I have full understanding for you having such a view. Its not uncommon at all. But I don't feel that way.
Besides, I wasn't pestering. I was asking nicely and arguing how and why they could safely make an exception for me whitout compromising their project. And if it helps; my PM mailbox is devoid of anything Imperium related.
Alexius on 22/3/2006 at 23:32
Project lead sticks his head out the window...
Finds mention of project in forums...
Finds odd discussion that seems to lead nowhere....
Calm down people! I don't care if such information is released, as it was exposed by me in these forums many times already. Here's what it's really about:
The story takes place on the other side of the world and has nothing to do with "The city".
The main character is an Imperial Acolyte, a Sentinel of the Hammerite Army and the Hammerite Empire that holds 3 continents under its fist of iron rule.
The gameplay is full of sneaky-ness, and yes....the main character isn't a thief but instead a “A sneaky Hammerite” like DarthMRN put it.
A spy/assassin/messenger that has to sneak just as much as a thief through enemy territory since he's not heavily armed.
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T-Smith on 22/3/2006 at 23:37
Army? Empire? Iron Rule?
Since when did the Hammers become the Soviet Union? :p
Seriously though, looking foward to this, even though I know barely anything about it besides the fact that it's been in development for a while. Hopefully it all turns out well.
Alexius on 22/3/2006 at 23:53
Quote Posted by T-Smith
Since when did the Hammers become the Soviet Union?
Since I wrote the story that way.
It's actually more of a Catholic Roman Empire if anything.
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TenTailedCat on 23/3/2006 at 00:26
Do I detect certain Warhammer 40,000 Imperial influences in the design behind this?
It looks like the Imperium would if it were set in a medieval setting.
Or maybe The Imerium is generic enough that everything tends to look like it...
Either way it's looking really nice, glad I stumbled across it.
Macsen on 25/3/2006 at 17:47
Quote Posted by spix's circlet
Ridiculous lead up into TDP I might add. But should be a great game otherwise.
Hmmm I've been on the project for a yea and a half but am unwarae of any 'ridiculous lead up to TDP'. The Imperium deals with some events referenced in the later Thief games, but what they are is pretty obvious when you think about it (the Thief world has to go from Hammerite dominated to non-Hammerite dominated, for example).