What on Earth could be the problem ??

fortuni on 14/10/2014 at 20:27

i recently posted about a problem whilst playing The Mirror of Return, in which i encountered a few playing issues....see posts

(http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131148&p=2266972&viewfull=1#post2266972)

(http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131148&p=2266972&viewfull=1#post2266972)

Now I have come across 2 more issues

1. playing Strife Campaign - Mission 8 The Bailey, again an objective 'Find the Time Bolts' does not tick off, thus preventing me finishing the mission and campaign (btw end-alt-shift-ctrl does not work with my machine for some reason)

quicksave
(https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7UExWqHXPI2OHJJNlp6ekNOOUk/view?usp=sharing)

2. and now with the third FM in a row, i have a problem with TTGM - Shore Leave, you are meant to put a bunch of flowers on Brutha's grave and in return you get a key to allow you to move onto the next mission Up Sh*t Creek, however when i did this i got a gold nugget when i played through FMsel and bizarrely a silver nugget when i played through Darkloader.....in both cases this prevented me finishing the FM

quicksave
(https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7UExWqHXPI2T0R1T09aTldrWGs/view?usp=sharing)

This is the 3rd FM in a row that i appear to be having objectives not appearing/not ticking off or other playing issues such as i cant drop an item or the wrong item appears, and bearing in mind Strife campaign was released by Ricebug in 2012 as a NewDark release, i suspect it is not a NewDark issue that causing me all this grief......but in truth im clueless....is there any possibility that it could be my computer is beginning to play up ? i don't really have any other indications as such however so don't really think its my machine.... could it be the NewDark patch v1.22 i installed in order to play Death's Turbid Veil ?

btw i always use FMsel, and i checked my Thief files that were all clean

any help would be greatly appreciated

thanks in advance

pwl on 14/10/2014 at 22:47

I am sorry to hear of your troubles I have had a few recently myself but doing a files/folder cleanup worked for me? As for the level skip I always push ctrl, alt, shift, end I don't know if the order has to be that way but it works for me.

voodoo47 on 14/10/2014 at 22:48

make sure all your osms are up to date, that's always a good start.

Renault on 14/10/2014 at 23:17

On the heels of that, Tafferpatcher should get all of your scripts up-to-date (I believe).

fortuni on 15/10/2014 at 05:16

Quote Posted by pwl

all files are clean...first thing i checked

Quote Posted by voodoo47

make sure all your osms are up to date, that's always a good start.

not sure what osms are

Quote Posted by Brethren

On the heels of that, Tafferpatcher should get all of your scripts up-to-date (I believe).

tafferpatch installed and all recent other patches upto and including Newdark 1.22

btw i have been playing with NecroAge installed, but did check out Shore Leave with NecroAge un-installed and that was when i got a Nugget rather than a key on the grave, so doubt if that patch it the cause of so many issues

Tannar on 15/10/2014 at 05:51

fortuni, problems with objectives not completing properly is almost always due to a bad or corrupted copy of gen.osm. Download a (http://www.wearytaffer.com/storage/gen.zip) good copy here. Just unzip it and place the file gen.osm into your Thief2 folder. Let it overwrite the existing copy.

I think you will then need to reinstall the mission using whatever mission loader you use (Darkloader, FM Sel, etc.) but then you should be able to load a save and continue. If I'm wrong about this, someone will no doubt correct me.

fortuni on 15/10/2014 at 07:11

thanks for advise tanner, tried that....to no avail, re-started Shore leave...still get nugget rather than key, and obj still does not tick off in Strife, but did load from a save......well i'm stumped......horrible suspicion i may need to do complete re-install of Thief.....Grrrrr

nickie on 15/10/2014 at 09:18

Quote Posted by fortuni

(btw end-alt-shift-ctrl does not work with my machine for some reason)

It doesn't work on mine either - I keep forgetting to see if there's an answer somewhere. Keyboard shortcuts has been suggested and there's a setting under Ease of Access in the Control panel but I haven't a clue what it means. :)

darthsLair on 15/10/2014 at 13:05

Quote Posted by Tannar

Hi Mike,

Actually it is the convict.osm that controls objectives. Look in your Thief 2 directory for anything that does not pertain to the original and NewDark Thief2 game. Disable your ep.crf temporarily, and see if it gets rid of the nugget/key problem. The Gold/Silver nugget if it is anything other than .pcx or .gif it will overwrite the originals and the key won't show.

Fm-selector under "fms" delete the copy of the fm folder, and do not save your save games, as fm-selector will save the old data even if you use new .osms

fortuni on 15/10/2014 at 20:45

thanks darthslair...................had a look in my files, and found a bit of c**p in there, but decided to to a total re-install as i was not 100% what was good and what was bad

i tried each game i had issues with as i re-installed each patch/mod and i now have 'The Mirror of Return' working fine from minute one, can drop items and have managed to light the burners and get into the temple

however, even with a virgin install of T2....just T2/Tafferpatch both through FMsel and Darkloader i still get a nugget appearing in 'Shore leave' rather than the key that i am meant to get................i know i bet you its a broken FM...Grrr..... after all that uninstalling/re-installing....will try again over weekend

as for 'Strife' ....it didn't resolve the objective not ticking off, but then again i used a save, and im NOT replaying the whole campaign just to check that one out