What RPG to play... choice of five. - by Digital Nightfall
Nedan on 19/1/2011 at 03:02
I just noticed the poll results... no love for Shivering Isles? :laff:
Personally, I'd go with Morrowind... but only after installing all the graphical upgrade mods out there. If you have a good enough system, with all the mods installed, you can get Morrowind to look a lot better than Oblivion. And so far, it's the last true Elder Scrolls RPG from Bethsoft IMHO as I wouldn't really call Oblivion or its expansion true rpgs at all (but I guess that's really just my personal preference in the genre & an argument/discussion for another thread or time).
As for Fallout... if you have to play those then I really have to agree with the others here. Trust me, you will be doing yourself a big favor, just skip Fallout3 & go straight to New Vegas. Only play Fallout3 when the mod community has "fixed" the game up some.
june gloom on 19/1/2011 at 05:11
Fallout New Vegas feels like a weird bridge between TES-style gameplay (which FO3 embodies to a T) and the old classic Fallout games. I love Fallout 3 to death but New Vegas is shaping up very nicely.
ZylonBane on 19/1/2011 at 05:29
Quote Posted by Nedan
Only play Fallout3 when the mod community has "fixed" the game up some.
So, two years ago then?
june gloom on 19/1/2011 at 05:34
Yeah I was just going to ignore that 'cuz, well, it's Nedan.
ZylonBane on 19/1/2011 at 15:51
I'm only playing with two mods anyway-- one that shrinks the UI text down to PC size, and one that prevents the DLC quests from immediately popping up when you start the game.
Jason Moyer on 19/1/2011 at 16:38
I've never really understood using mods on first-playthroughs of games anyway, aside from the rare unofficial patches that are actually good and only fix bugs (like the Elder Scrolls ones).
Sulphur on 19/1/2011 at 17:02
^ Lump me in the same boat. I'm not going to try Stalker Complete or AMK or FO3/NV's gameplay 'enhancing' mods until I'm done with my first run through.
Having said that, and given the length of said games, that's probably only going to happen by 2014.
steo on 19/1/2011 at 17:31
For me, it depends on the game. Usually I will play through it first unmodded, but for games like Oblivion, Fallout 3 and New Vegas I think it's worth looking into mods before you start playing. I tried playing FO3 without any gameplay-changing mods, but only ended up starting the whole thing again with mods enabled after I discovered how broken the character and levelling systems in the game were - I hit the level cap before really doing any of the main quest, and was really pissed off at how bad the stats balancing was compared to Fallout 1/2/Tactics.
I don't really see the point in playing the game as the developers intended, when the developers obviously intended the game to mostly be played by people who don't want to be punished for making bad character-building decisions. The fact is that I know I'm in a minority of gamers who like a more difficult, hardcore experience, and I know that the game has been balanced to cater for a wider, more casual audience.
Why then should I bother playing the unmodded game when I can be fairly sure that I'll enjoy it a lot more with mods installed to tweak it to my particular tastes?
Sulphur on 19/1/2011 at 17:47
There's a difference between fixing broken gameplay and changing it altogether though. I can agree that FO3's levelling system is a tad irritating, because it is. If there's a mod that makes playing a little more challenging/oldschool, then more power to you. I'm playing NV on Hardcore because there's at least some semblance of playing an oldschool Fallout there (though it's not quite, not really).
What I'm talking about is stuff that changes the game entirely, like adding vehicles or different quests or similar stuff. AMK and Oblivion lost make SoC an almost entirely different animal because they change just about everything. Maybe the changes are closer to GSC's original vision, or maybe they're not. Either way, I'd rather experience the original game first before any of the mods that overhaul it.
gunsmoke on 19/1/2011 at 18:29
Quote Posted by Jason Moyer
I've never really understood using mods on first-playthroughs of games anyway, aside from the rare unofficial patches that are actually good and only fix bugs (like the Elder Scrolls ones).
100% agreed.
