Saturnine on 22/9/2007 at 20:13
This might very likely be a stupid question! :p
I just finished the awesome Thief 1..... again, and I noticed that the last mission starts really abruptly, In the briefing he says 'This is it!' then when it starts you find yourself standing [SPOILER]next to a portal in the maw[/SPOILER] How did he actually get there? where is the way in? And how did Garrett know where it was?
I know that in escape you travel [SPOILER]down through the weirdness under the constantine mansion only to eventually find your way back up to a different part of the same mansion and out to the streets[/SPOILER]
So does Garrett then go back in again?
I guess thats where the portal is right? somewhere in there?
Unless it was somewhere in the escape mission that I missed?
I think I must have definitely missed something :cheeky: Wasn't it something to do with [SPOILER]the captured hammer priest?[/SPOILER]
help :D
~D
jtr7 on 22/9/2007 at 20:49
Read the two notes from the Hammers.;)
Killermind on 23/9/2007 at 00:14
I've never read those notes, but I always thought the high preist was responsible for that.
Elentari on 23/9/2007 at 07:07
I always assumed the portal was in the Hammer basement - if only because there was a surge of the creatures there (Strange Bedfellows) and Garrett is now working with/for them. Plus they are the ones who got him ready for going in there in the first place. [SPOILER](The Fake Eye was provided by the Hammers. . .)[/SPOILER]
Also, at some point in that mission, Garrett mentions
[SPOILER]closing the portal to 'give the Hammers a fighting chance.[/SPOILER]
Which, to me, sort of indicated they were on the other side of that portal fighting the influx of creatures that was coming through. Although, technically speaking, that could have been so for just about anywhere, given that they knew the situation and were - sorta - the ones who sent Garrett in to start with. Not a lot to stop them from breaking in to someone's mansion and battling to hold that. But, yeah. Just sort of seemed to me it was in the basement of one of their temples.
My guess is the game creators did not think it important to mention WHERE this portal was set up. Who'd have thunk that the fans would pick it apart for such minute details? :)
jtr7 on 23/9/2007 at 07:53
I think the briefing makes it clear some time has passed, as well. Although, with so many people having trouble getting the briefings to play, and others skipping them on purpose....
Anybody else find it curious how the Hammers know the Eye well enough to make a decent fake?
Mikael Grizzly on 23/9/2007 at 08:43
Well, it *did* reside within the Hammerite Cathedral in the Old Quarter for a fair amount of time and before the Cataclysm struck, they might've done schematics or drawing of the things. Wouldn't be unheard of.
Plus, it's the Hammers. They know.
Saturnine on 23/9/2007 at 09:28
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indicated they were on the other side of that portal fighting the influx of creatures that was coming through
Yes there was an area in strange bed fellows that was marked on the map as 'seige' and there was battle sounds coming from through the window/hole in the wall where the hammer gives you the map and key. So yeah I get it that it's the hammers that know everything.
But if that's where the portal is (somewhere in the strange bedfellows mission) I would have thought the makers would have made more of a big deal of it, at least so you see it even from a distance and have Garrett comment on it.
Also surely it wouldn't have been in the tricksters best interest to have it lead anywhere but a forest.
To have the portal in the maw bringing in the monsters from god knows where, then float them up to the top of the maw then through another portal that leads to the real world, only it comes out into a hammer temple :p oops
By the way which letters from the hammers?
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Who'd have thunk that the fans would pick it apart for such minute details?
Shut it! :cheeky:
jtr7 on 23/9/2007 at 10:03
M14HINT: "Garrett:
All we can offer you in aid are these crystals and this passage from
one of our oldest books:
'The Trickster's works, such as they are, are made of the unformed
stuff of the world, not the proper materials the Builder hath taught.
Fire and water, earth and air -- these are for the Trickster as brick
and beam are to us. But, like their master, they are flawed.
His Maw is anchored by raw elements, and therein lies its weakness.
Destroy each of its anchors with its opposite, and the Maw must
then follow in their wake.'"
M14TIP2: "Garrett: Dost this help thee aught?
"'Ware thee the rock of crystal, the song of doom. The
heart of mortal man is weak 'gainst its siren call, and temptation
beckons. As nearer thou drawest, the rock waits, until thy heart is
close for its strike, and thy fate is sealed.'
'Tis a fragment found in an old record warning of the Maw."
Lovecraftian on 23/9/2007 at 12:12
I've always like to think that Karras wrote the second one.
Peanuckle on 25/9/2007 at 02:02
That would be interesting, but there's nothing to support it. I don't think that Karras had anything to do with the Trickster incident, rather that he transferred from another city. I don't think that any hammer who survived the assault would try to destroy the city they fought for.
