Solabusca on 31/8/2007 at 21:04
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So when he Azaran talks about the Plane of Earth, does that mean he used to be an Earth Mage? Its clear to me now he refers to 'The Hand', but are there any other references of this Hand Brotherhood? I sincerely don't recall anything from my past Theif experiences.
Allow me to direct you to a note found in the Mages Towers:
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Mage Verlin,
Azaran’s interest in Necromancy has not diminished, despite his banishment. His study of the black arts continues at his spire in Dayport. We fear that his experiments with the reanimation of rats and insects will lead to more disturbing depths. He has even endeavored to recruit others on a crusade to recover The Book of Ash.
The Book of Ash must remain a thing of the past. Azaran’s ambition has blinded him to this, and he has proven himself a threat to our existence. His expulsion has only made him more resilient.
It is the decision of the Inner Circle that greater measures be taken to correct this matter.
Archmage Corino"
Thus you can see that Azaran used to be a member of the Order, before being banished for studying dark arts.
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Thief 2 gold is out?
Well, the initial unfinished missions were made available, and a (for now, stalled) project is in the works to fully realize them.
In any case - looking upthread to the mention of Cragscleft - I'd posit that dark magic collects in places where there is death, misery or suffering - 'like attracting like' until it reaches a critical mass. Perhaps this is also how fire elementals appear in the Lost City.
I'd say ghosts and apparitions are, like Zombies, a byproduct of this energy - a dark reflection of the spirit of the deceased, created by death and strong negative emotion. Again, a necromancer or other burst of negative energy would be able to create a powerful (and destructive) spirit in this fashion - much like the apparitions in the Old Quarter.
.j.
RavynousHunter on 1/9/2007 at 08:16
Of course, another very common theory is that the people who were reanimated suffered horrible deaths, which we can also attribute the appearances of ghosts and poltergeists throughout the series. Angry spirits generally dont like to pass on quietly, and when they kill someone, they (the victim) dies violently, therefore causing the population of undead/paranormal beings to increase exponentially, which could be the reason for having so many zombies, ghosts, and whatever in the Walled Section, as one zombie couldve caused a sort of blossoming effect that wouldve raged on indefinitely until either they were contained or everyone in the city was either dead or undead.
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marshall banana on 1/9/2007 at 15:41
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This is all to do with zombies, but what about haunts and apparitions? I'm pretty sure haunts are hammerites whose grave site has not been consecrated, but I can't remember where I heard that.
It was a loading quote from TDS. But, in the haunted cathedral, didn't Murus say they were possessed, or something like that?
Solabusca on 1/9/2007 at 20:16
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It was a loading quote from TDS. But, in the haunted cathedral, didn't Murus say they were possessed, or something like that?
Again, I think that ties into 'animated by dark energy'.
.j.
jtr7 on 2/9/2007 at 03:01
From HelpText.sch: "T_LoadingHelp54 / Tip: Hammer Haunts are undead Hammerites whose burial site was desecrated."
M11MURS2.str: "I am wracked with the agony of guilt. The Master Builder cannot spare the cursed coward that I have become. If only I could bring myself to confess what I know about the death of Brother Murus. His soul will never rest unless we perform the Ritual of Consecration upon his grave. But the priests will surely ask why such a thing need be done, and I am too weak a Builder's servant to face their wrath."
MURHAU1.wav: "Now I must ask thee for one last thing: These haunts who inhabit the bodies of my brethren--they must all be killed."
M11BCKGD.str: "Though these be perhaps the final moments of our beloved cathedral and mine mortal life, I shall faithfully chronicle to the end. A great evil magic hath befallen us, and we battle with demon-kind on all sides. Our own fallen brethren rise from death and turn on us, cold light aflame in their eyes. Our mighty doors availed us naught, for the assault was from within. Soon I shall be found and slain, like the others. May The Builder save our souls."
Emerald Wolf on 2/9/2007 at 07:31
After reading the above quotes I feel it's justified enough to assume that the haunts are dead bodies possesed by some evil spirit or demon, whereas zombies are re-animated bodies driven simply by the base instinct to feed. I'm not as sure of what to make of the apparitions and ghosts. Also worth pointing out I feel, is that Hammers don't just become haunts or apparitions as is apparant from the bonehoard's Hammer-zombies (Which makes one wonder why there aren't other types of haunts).
all on 2/9/2007 at 09:28
Regarding the Hand & Azaran the Cruel. Thanks ---> Solabusca & jtr7
I wish I had TG, or at least the readibles :(
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Well, the initial unfinished missions were made available, and a (for now, stalled) project is in the works to fully realize them.
I wasn't aware. Where can find these missions??
Keeper Beege on 2/9/2007 at 10:43
Al Gore invented the undead, along with the internet.
