Digital Nightfall on 29/6/2001 at 14:38
Deus Ex 2 is going to let you play as a female character. I strongly suspect that she will simply be Miss JC Denton (a female version of JC, not JC with a sex change) and not the result of some crazy plot twist or some new character.
I am betting (hoping) that this will work the same way as done from Baldur's Gate 1 to Baldur's Gate 2. If you desire, you may choose to import your character from part 1 into part 2 and go on from there. But if you desire, you may also start again from scratch with a totally new persona, different race, class, sex, etc (in DX's case, it would just be sex). This of course opens up the question... can you import your character into DX2? Will you start off as powerful as you were in DX1 when you start DX2? Or will you be back to bare bones like a lame duck? But those are questions for another time.
My Theory, and I may be proven wrong (but I doubt it) is that the female JC is ....
1) Going back to olde skool like Underworld 1 & 2, where you could play as male or female
2) Not the result of some plot twist or conspiracy, or some new character
3) Will not impact the gameplay at all, with the exception of how some possibly flirty NPCs will react to you
My thoughts. :)
MDA on 29/6/2001 at 16:19
I imagine you'll be starting out as a new recruit character and have the choice of male or female.
I can't imagine starting out with a fully enhanced op would be much fun. The advantage of shock and DX FPS is they add in character development options that impact gameplay. So you not only find newer cooler weapons like most any other FPS, you can upgrade them, your skills, and your implants.
I suppose they could come up with a totally new set of enhancements to add to an already veteran operative, but that would take more time and money than just revamping the current DX1 enhancement system with some extra bells and whistles.
Yes, of course I'll try playing the lady. Even if she happens to have physical proportions more like a human being than a barbie doll.
Digital Nightfall on 29/6/2001 at 18:41
Not so.. DX2 will pick up exactly where DX1 left off (not that I have any idea that that is.... I'm still in Paris) and you will be playing JC Denton (either Mr or Miss).
Personally, I think it would be rather moronic of them to make you start off as a barebones newbie after you just saved the world. They do need to develop a new set of skills and upgrades to futher expand your character's power. Ah well.
enversi on 29/6/2001 at 19:05
It depends on which ending they choose to start from in DX2.
Spoilers....
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Spoiler:</font><DIV STYLE="background-color:#000080"><FONT color="#000080">If they choose to use the Helios ending, you could start as a new recruit into an organization fighting against an all powerful JC, who has become more machine-like than human. Kind of the same idea as Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver, where in the sequel you are trying to kill the hero of the previous game.
Same thing for the Illuminati ending, where you would be fighting against another corrupt organization controlling the world, which JC is a part of.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
It is also possible that they will make it so that all the augs you had at the end of DX1 are completely outdated at the start of DX2, and that the new stuff availiable is way better. This would make it so that you'd be like a rookie again, and would allow you to directly import your old JC.
Keeper Hellzon on 30/6/2001 at 07:55
I'll bet you play a new charachter.
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Spoiler:</font><DIV STYLE="background-color:#000080"><FONT color="#000080">If you picked the Helios ending, JC might not have control of himself anymore. He has two advanced AI's in his head, ye know.
Besides, remember Alex Denton? Of course, he might be dead if you took the "New Dark Age", but that can be remedied. (He may have left before you blew up the place.)
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Cheers!
K.H. <IMG SRC="devil.gif" border="0">
Bogeyman on 30/6/2001 at 08:09
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Originally posted by Digital Nightfall:
<STRONG>Not so.. DX2 will pick up exactly where DX1 left off (not that I have any idea that that is.... I'm still in Paris) and you will be playing JC Denton (either Mr or Miss).
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Where did you get that information?
I tried to recreate my character at the start of a new game once. (Cheats) Way too easy. I don't think this is going to happen. With a full complement of the skills and augs you acquire during DX 1, things wouldn't be fun, IMHO.
And I will definitely be playing as a female. Probably me more often than as a male.
Garboshnik on 1/7/2001 at 23:35
Digi hasn't seen how invincible you are at the end.....
I _really_ wouldn't like it if you had to fight some form of JC at the end. Following up dark age or illuminati ending would be better IMHO.
BackDoorBandit on 2/7/2001 at 16:45
I'll definitely be playing as a female character, as I had already stated in the Deus Ex 2 Ideas and Concepts forums.
If Ion makes it so that you simply pick up where you left off as and all you do is pick male or female, that's a serious design flaw. It'll distract from the immersiveness. If you played JC/Male in the first game, then you play as a Female JC in the next, the transition won't be proper. As for a game like BG, they can get by with it, because they're a true RPG and you're not playing it from a First Person view. DX is different from this aspect because you are in a First Person view, and you are JC.
The best way for Ion to let the gamer have the choice of playing male or female is really quite easy. Kill off JC. JC has to go. Either that, or put in two different storylines and play as JC's counterpart. This is the only real way to keep the true immersiveness from the game. I'm not saying that DX2 won't be immersive. I'm saying if they let the gamer pick who he/she wants to be, without something taking place in the storyline, it will break the immersiveness. It will be highly criticized from a design aspect. I don't care what anyone says, even anyone from Ion. If they make me pick from the start of DX2 whether to be a male/female without any story change, or counterpart type of play, I can't play as a female, because it will break my gaming experience.
In PCGamer, they said JC would be returning. They didn't say in what capacity. I think a good way to go is like someone else had pointed out already. Come back to take care of the hero. Either that, or kill him off at some point in the game and let you switch characters then decide, but then this too would detract from gameplay as well. The only other thing I could see happening is that maybe JC has, retired due to whatever they want the cause to be, and now you'll play as another character, either male or female, and you'll be working for, or with JC. They could definitely pull this one off really easy.
oRGy on 2/7/2001 at 17:02
Hardly matters what you say on the topic, BDB, the decision has been stated that you will play JC. (I find this perfectly acceptable).
I'd guess that in the case of the Dark Ages ending, JC's hardware could be fried to an extent, or maybe the nanoware stops working when the labs that produced it gave up, or any number of reasons.
Naartjie on 3/7/2001 at 16:04
I think a new character would be a great idea. The game's plot could then revolve on 'saving' JC from whatever he becomes at the end of DX1.
Besides, it'd be sort of lame if you kept playing JC but somehow changed gender during the transition between DX1 and DX2.<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Spoiler:</font><DIV STYLE="background-color:#000080"><FONT color="#000080"> Unless Helios has some quite twisted ideas for using JC to control the world, of course.</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
Naartjie
