marshall banana on 4/8/2006 at 00:43
From what the plaque on the Cradle's architect's coffin thing says, it sounds as if the Cradle was cursed from the start. "May his troubles finally be over"
Jarkko Ranta on 4/8/2006 at 07:54
The Cradle always reminded me of the Overlook ((
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overlook_hotel)), althou that place wasn't burned down from the start. But the treatment of patients, horrible and traumatizing (if there's such a word...) could gather up into maligness that stayed in the building. But King No One - he's a nice sounding chap -
or other of the patients could have torched the place up. Why they were left behind, I dunno.
Cardel on 5/8/2006 at 19:31
Quote Posted by Jarkko Ranta
Why they were left behind, I dunno.
I always thought that king no-one and the other inmates formulated their plan, started the fire and began to cause havok in the area they could - killing everyone there (King No-One's goal). However, the Nine were not able to leave to the outside world because of the iron gate which needed power. It was closed by the survivors outside the assylum area before the Nine could escape, however it also trapped a number of the orphans and the staff there, who were murdered by the rampaging inmates.
Thats my version of it.
Jarkko Ranta on 7/8/2006 at 17:14
Quote Posted by Cardel
It was closed by the survivors outside the assylum area before the Nine could escape, however it also trapped a number of the orphans and the staff there, who were murdered by the rampaging inmates.
Thats my version of it.
Now that you mentioned it, there was a skeleton lying on the floor near the Records Book.
Holywhippet on 9/8/2006 at 05:46
Quote Posted by Yos
Here's another thought that occured to me. Was the craddle made by the Hammers? I'm thinking at this since this thing always happens to Hammer buildings. The Cathedral and even the Hammer base in TDS come to mind.
One of the documents you can find (which is in the rafters above that fence of yours who gets whacked) mentions the architect of the cradle. He asks to be interred at the Hammerite mausoleum if possible. This leads me to believe he is a member of the faith but not an actual Hammerite.
I think part of what caused the Cradle to become haunted is all the negative emotions that were generated in there. The fear from the kids and the craziness of the inmates - many of whom were in pain from the electro shock therapy they were being given.
Palantir on 9/8/2006 at 08:02
Or, perhaps, because of that Necromancy Staff in the Sewer nearby...
ercles on 10/8/2006 at 07:07
No the necromancy staff was being used by the pagans to raise the dead at fort ironwood.
The thing about the inmates is they aren't just zombies, look at them. When zombies die they rot, right? Just decaying bodies reanimated. When you look at the inmates/puppets it is clear that there is something more at play. I aint never seen a zombie wrapped in barbed wire before, and just look at the way they move. They are animated by whatever sentient force is ruling the cradle, and as such cannot leave.
I honestly think the only connection between the hag and the cradle is the fact that she needed to steal the body of someone who wouldn't be missed, thus an orphanage.
june gloom on 19/8/2006 at 18:38
yes, you're right. they're not zombies in the traditional sense.
traditional zombies, including those of the old quarter, tend to wander for whatever reason. if there were a hole in the barricade between the city and its "closed area" in the old quarter, you can be sure that if nobody noticed it for a few days a wandering zombie would find it- and then the shit would hit the fan.
that said, i think the cradle likely rests right next to the closed area (perhaps serving as part of the wall?) and therefore the cradle, after its closing, was awakened by the eye's mischief making use of all the years and years of pain and terror and general unpleasantness. and though the absence of the eye means it's possible to clear out the closed area (though i doubt anyone would want to attempt to- FM idea? trying to clean out the valuable stuff before the soldiers arrive?) the cradle still lives on by its own evil power. living right next to a contained, burned-out zombie rampage couldn't have helped the mood of the residents (because it's plain that the cradle was still in operation even after the incident at the cathedral, for we know the cathedral incident was at least 80 years ago or so)
anyway i'm rambling and it's been over a week since TTLG went down so i'm going on and on too much. i'll stfu now.
T-Smith on 19/8/2006 at 20:05
Quote Posted by Cardel
I always thought that king no-one and the other inmates formulated their plan, started the fire and began to cause havok in the area they could - killing everyone there (King No-One's goal). However, the Nine were not able to leave to the outside world because of the iron gate which needed power. It was closed by the survivors outside the assylum area before the Nine could escape, however it also trapped a number of the orphans and the staff there, who were murdered by the rampaging inmates.
Thats my version of it.
That's pretty much spot on. King No One used the wrongful persecution of one of the other patients (the one who was blamed for Lauyrl's death) to begin an uprising. The fire was started by the pyromaniac patient. She first set fire to the staff tower and sat in a chair and watched (hence why there's a single chair facing the staff tower).
As for why the Cradle became haunted, I like the idea of all the negative emotions. My guess is Gamall used the fear and hatred that was no doubt seething throughout the entire building, along with her mastery over glyph powers, to curse the Cradle. Why? To hide her tracks. That was where she got Lauyrl's skin, so she didn't want anyone to go there and start to connect the dots.
Dussander on 20/8/2006 at 00:18
Quote Posted by T-Smith
As for why the Cradle became haunted, I like the idea of all the negative emotions. My guess is Gamall used the fear and hatred that was no doubt seething throughout the entire building, along with her mastery over glyph powers, to curse the Cradle. Why? To hide her tracks. That was where she got Lauyrl's skin, so she didn't want anyone to go there and start to connect the dots.
I like that idea, makes sense :)
