honeymaker on 27/3/2003 at 15:27
I think it's the differences between the games that make the series so interesting. Whereas other game sequels just rehash the same crap, The Metal Age really took the Thief series in a new direction, while still retaining some of the best features of the original. Although I bought TDP when it first came out and thus have a nostalgic attraction to it, I won't deny that Thief 2 just has better gameplay, more consistent missions, and more polish. It may not have as many bone-chilling scares or bizarre levels as TDP, but it does hold that feeling of being a Thief better, rather than wandering around tunnels killing beasts. But ultimately the whole debate is mute, since both games are great in their own way. :D
Child of Karras on 27/3/2003 at 15:41
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Originally posted by SlyFoxx He's more or less a Keeper. The "rogue" Keeper if you will. This puts him on different path than your average cutpurse.Ah but don't forgot.
"
You have special talents boy. We are in need of one such as you"
And when Garrett ran away from the Keepers, he was STILL a Thief. If he was the "rogue" keeper, why the Bafford mission? The scepter does not play an important part in the game. Neither is Cutty or the Horn of Quintis. What the Keeper's predicted only appeared in "The Sword"
SneaksieDave on 27/3/2003 at 15:42
It obviously comes down to personal taste, so I won't bother with that.
For me, I think T1 and T2 mirror Underworld and Underworld 2, actually. While T2 (and Underworld 2) is technically far superior - cleaner, polished, better looking, more thought-out, more complex, larger, etc., the first editions just seem to have something special in the atmosphere.
Perhaps it does have something to do with the "first love" phenomenon - I still consider Bafford's to be one of the best - but to me, T1 just seems darker, spookier, down in the dirt, more hardcore. Hey don't be dissin' Cragscleft!
I love them both - they are both fantastic - but if I had to pick which one brought out more emotion from me, it was Dark Project. Heck I sat stunned for 10 minutes after seeing the cutscene in question above. The story is phenomenal. And I won't even bother to go into discussing RTC.
But then again, maybe sequels are just forever doomed to the "Hey, neat, I've seen something before just like this!" syndrome, thus lessening their perceived value as always just a little-bit-less...
Azal on 27/3/2003 at 15:58
For me, the reason I like T:DP better is simply because it came first.
It brought a new take to an increasingly stale style of game and created its own niche genre - the First Person Sneaker.
I enjoy T2 almost as much because of its huge levels and more varied challenges, but T:DP came first and it will always hold a special place for me just because of that.
Child of Karras on 27/3/2003 at 16:05
AZAL=I'm curious... so let's say GAVIN GROPEMEISTER (just an example. NOT a real game) 1 sucked big time and you hated it alot but Gropemeister 2, you enjoyed alot. What will you say to that then?
And do you REALLY love Thief:TDP more than TMA or are you just... "forcing" yourself to because it was the first?
Shoshin on 27/3/2003 at 16:07
For me, it's because Thief TDP was a complete revelation in the world of gaming. I had no idea that games could be so atmospheric , so fraught with tension, and with a well done story. When Thief came out I thought I was done with gaming as nothing had grabbed me in a good long while and I was "growing up". Thief showed me that a game could be a piece of art (even with some flaws).
Thief was so compelling to me that I completely suspended disbelief and bought into the game world. Nothing to me seemed out of place. Everything fit, everything was believable.
Thief II, while technologically superior, just didn't suck me in in quite the same way. It's still head and shoulders above any other game out there, just not above Thief II.
I have noticed that, in general, the people that like Thief better than Thief II tend to have played Thief first and vice versa. So there probably is something to the "first love" theory.
Child of Karras on 27/3/2003 at 16:09
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Originally posted by Shoshin When Thief came out I thought I was done with gaming as nothing had grabbed me in a good long while and I was "growing up". And adults aren't gamers? Since when did games become a kids-only thing?
Shoshin on 27/3/2003 at 16:23
I was speaking of my perception, which was changed by Thief, not making a general claim that no adults were gamers. Just not this adult. Until Thief.
Child of Karras on 27/3/2003 at 16:27
Oh... sorry. Well that's good to hear. Thief IS something special. I've never been so crazy about a game since the day I discovered Final Fantasy. :D
Luthien on 27/3/2003 at 16:27
Atmosphere, smaller levels and kangaroo jumping.
