Why you're all creeps. - by LaffyTaffy420
Muzman on 6/8/2014 at 18:33
Koki was great, except when he used to fight with dethtoll all the time.
And dethtoll was great except when he used to fight with...oh I've lost track. Since koki left, someone different every week I think.
I can ignore it. Some people can't (not saying it should be ignored, btw. But I just don't know)
Breaks are good for perspective anyway.
Renzatic on 6/8/2014 at 20:20
Quote Posted by LaffyTaffy420
The flippant answer is to say "I wonder why that guy keeps throwing rocks at that building, even though he seems to have a deep hatred for the people who live there..."
The honest answer is because I got a PM from Renzatic and we started talking, so I'm sticking around for the duration of that conversation, which despite showing a lot of promise, is going south because he's now just repeating the same thing over and over again. Before, I agreed with dethtoll's stance on this place. Now, I feel like I've walked a mile in his shoes and could never possibly disagree with it. It is insanely infuriating to talk to someone and to acknowledge the points they make as being correct and to have them continually make those points over and over again as if you still disagree with them.
Edit: You know what? I'm glad I saw this after my oh so kind PMs, because it made me realize something...
You're a waste of time. You don't want to discuss anything. You want to accuse.
Of course I'm repeating myself, even "though we agree", because saying "yeah, I agree but..." then saying the EXACT SAME THING YOU SAID BEFORE will mean I'll respond with the exact same thing I said before, despite that initial agreement, which was apparently just words to you.
So you know what? I'm done with you, and I'm done with Dethtoll. I tried being nice, and all you've done is say "you're making me want to be nasty to you", and all but call me a terrible human being. You're baiting me into doing something drastic, and when I do, you're gonna turn around and say "SEE, THIS IS WHY DETH HATES THIS PLACE SO MUCH".
So I'll repeat myself here. Deth does the exact same thing to people he accuses us of doing to him, and you enable him by taking his back and say "yeah, they're pieces of shit, you're a special goddamn snowflake no one understands". Yup. I'm repeating myself again. But hell, you're doing the same thing now. We've already gone over this, and when you're here posting in opposition the very thing you claimed to understand not even last night, what else am I supposed to think? When you go in being all acusatory at take looking down your nose at people as the default, you're gonna piss people out. It's not their fault. It's your fault. Yours and Deth's both.
You can reply to my PMs, you can reply to me here. You can hate me for not "getting it", and judge me accordingly, not that you already have. Tell Deth he's wrong for thinking I'm a "good person", because hell, you're here to convince him otherwise of that. I guess I'm not. But fuck it. I don't care. I know a losing battle when I see one. Any more effort I spend on this is a waste of time because YOU don't want to get it. Not me. You.
I'm done with this conversation.
Kolya on 6/8/2014 at 21:34
Won't someone just ban that fucker? He's been a troll since day one. And now he's trolling out here, given the mic one more time. Why deal with shit like this? He made Renz sad for heaven's sake! That's where your tolerance gets you. A place that's supposed to be fun but brings out the worst in everyone. Hey, that's a good line...
Renault on 6/8/2014 at 22:06
If you look at LT's posting history, you'll notice that 90% of his posts are either followed by or preceded by a dethtoll post.
That pretty much means those two have been sitting around, having a circle jerk, and intentionally messing with the forums here. That is unless LT and dt are not one in the same person, which I'm still suspicious of.
I'll be pretty ecstatic when the dethtoll circus decides to move on for good. I think we've all seen enough.
Tony_Tarantula on 7/8/2014 at 00:13
Quote Posted by Gryzemuis
Maybe because of Christianity ?
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That doesn't explain people like Richard Dawkins, or the greater level of civility in European countries that were historically theocracies.....or that most Americans were fairly polite, reasonable people back in the baby-boomer era when religion was a lot more powerful a force.
I think you've got cause and effect inverted. It isn't because of Christianity, it's because religions in America are aligned to political parties.
Tony_Tarantula on 7/8/2014 at 00:21
Quote Posted by Brethren
If you look at LT's posting history, you'll notice that 90% of his posts are either followed by or preceded by a dethtoll post.
That pretty much means those two have been sitting around, having a circle jerk, and
intentionally messing with the forums here. That is unless LT and dt are not one in the same person, which I'm still suspicious of.
I'll be pretty ecstatic when the dethtoll circus decides to move on for good. I think we've all seen enough.
Didn't he join at about the same time as Forever420?
Sycamoyr on 7/8/2014 at 00:24
Quote Posted by Tony_Tarantula
I think you've got cause and effect inverted. It isn't because of Christianity, it's because religions in America are aligned to political parties.
Or maybe America is corrupt because the government is in the pockets of special interest groups such as religions. "In God We Trust" is printed on our money and "One Nation under God" is in our pledge of allegiance. Personally, as an American atheist, I could really do without the whole religion thing. Politics is convoluted enough without the tie in between church and state.
The Democrat/Republican regime is too powerful for any other political party to overcome them, so we are forced to vote for one of two evils(or what some would deem the lesser of two evils). Our votes don't even matter because of the so called "Electoral College". Oppression megafrown! :(
Tony_Tarantula on 7/8/2014 at 00:27
Quote Posted by faetal
It's because US politics (from an outside perspective at least) is bizarrely cartoon-like. The whole left vs right thing is ridiculous. As is the idea that they are just two aspects of the same thing. When two viewpoints oppose, one is more often than not going to be more right than the other. A good example is global warming and evolution - either anthropogenic global warming is happening, or it is not - there is not a left-wing reality and a right-wing one. Same with evolution. There are some cases where the
established viewpoint is incorrect or objectively flawed and usually, if that's the case, then over time, mounting evidence shows it to be so. The fact that this happens however is not a justification for any opposition to the
status quo to be treated like a plucky underdog fighting against suppression by corrupt mainstream ideologues.
Not two aspects of the same thing, but they are more alike than not. Both factions are similar in that they throw out bizarre, illogical, hyperbolic arguments that are really just intended to advance the economic interests of that party's backers.
arandomgamer02 on 7/8/2014 at 00:33
Quote Posted by PigLick
@randomgamer - That thread was deleted at my request.
Thanks for the heads up. :D
We're talking about politics now? Dethtoll and company have had their 15 minutes. Now we're starting to hash and rehash. I think we're done here.
LaffyTaffy420 on 7/8/2014 at 02:09
Quote Posted by Renzatic
Edit: You know what? I'm glad I saw this after my oh so kind PMs, because it made me realize something...
You're a waste of time. You don't want to discuss anything. You want to accuse.
Of course I'm repeating myself, even "though we agree", because saying "yeah, I agree but..." then saying the EXACT SAME THING YOU SAID BEFORE will mean I'll respond with the exact same thing I said before, despite that initial agreement, which was apparently just words to you.
So you know what? I'm done with you, and I'm done with Dethtoll. I tried being nice, and all you've done is say "you're making me want to be nasty to you", and all but call me a terrible human being. You're baiting me into doing something drastic, and when I do, you're gonna turn around and say "SEE, THIS IS WHY DETH HATES THIS PLACE SO MUCH".
So I'll repeat myself here. Deth does the exact same thing to people he accuses us of doing to him, and you enable him by taking his back and say "yeah, they're pieces of shit, you're a special goddamn snowflake no one understands". Yup. I'm repeating myself again. But hell, you're doing the same thing now. We've already gone over this, and when you're here posting in opposition the very thing you claimed to understand not even last night, what else am I supposed to think? When you go in being all acusatory at take looking down your nose at people as the default, you're gonna piss people out. It's not their fault. It's your fault. Yours and Deth's both.
You can reply to my PMs, you can reply to me here. You can hate me for not "getting it", and judge me accordingly, not that you already have. Tell Deth he's wrong for thinking I'm a "good person", because hell, you're here to convince him otherwise of that. I guess I'm not. But fuck it. I don't care. I know a losing battle when I see one. Any more effort I spend on this is a waste of time because YOU don't want to get it. Not me. You.
I'm done with this conversation.
What's hilarious is we had a good forward moving convo going, and then you decided to just repeat yourself, there was one PM that I sent you that you pretty much ingored EVERY SINGLE THING I SAID and just replied to, I dunno, unicorn balls. You can tell me I don't understand all you want, the thing is there's a difference between understanding someone's standpoint and agreeing with it. As I explained in my post that got you oh-so buttmad, I was only sticking around to talk to you and finish out the duration of the conversation, and since you're now jamming bananas into your ears while going HURPH DURPH CANT HEAR YA, BUDDEH, then I'm done with your forum. You really do seem to have misunderstood the entire point of me making this thread, it was to pretty much all of TTLG (everyone not named queue) are a bunch of assholes. I've done that pretty effectively. You guys can sit around and go "we're not assholes, right?" to each other, but when a thread about what creeps you've all been is highjacked into LOL DEATH2AMERIKKA that pretty much proves my point better than I could have done it. I mean, wow. I'd heard a lot about tony and what a worthless hump he is, but it's quite something else to see it first hand.
Anyway this is it for real, no more posts from me at all, and no more PMs, deth was absolutely right, this place is absolutely toxic and continuing to come here will just really get me all riled up and angry, and since I'm actually not feeling very well today, I don't need the bullshit. So I'm going to do what Andrew did and add the ttlg domain to my windows HOSTs file, so I CAN'T come here.
Fuck you very much.
