Would you be interested in a Thief 3 version of one of Thief 2 missions? - by massimilianogoi
jermi on 31/8/2009 at 18:03
The kind that only a masochistic nutter would use?
Hamadriyad on 31/8/2009 at 18:08
Quote Posted by lost_soul
I would rather see "The Sword" or RTC from Thief 1 remade.
Yes, why only TMA missions. The Sword woul be great.
Fans can do that but ISA couldn't? What a shame!
thief0 on 31/8/2009 at 18:17
Yeah, I'm wondering the same thing - what engine is this? Doom 3?
lost_soul on 31/8/2009 at 18:32
Those fists look straight out of doom 3... as does the HUD. That can only mean one thing. :)
Briareos H on 31/8/2009 at 18:33
Quote Posted by jermi
The kind that only a masochistic nutter would use?
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http://www.thedarkmod.com/) indeed
lost_soul on 31/8/2009 at 18:38
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Fans can do that but ISA couldn't? What a shame!I always figured the original developers were just being lazy... The Unreal engine supports water, and T3 was using a modified version of it. How hard could water possibly be? All it is is a section of the map where the player can "fly" with longer acceleration/deceleration times.
massimilianogoi on 31/8/2009 at 19:17
Quote Posted by jtr7
Mass', it would not be illegal at all if you built it yourself, and didn't port assets over, and building it yourself is what I would expect you to do anyway.:sweat:;)
And what if some sound FX or meshes are original? I guess it's enough just asking to Eidos the permission via e-mail.
Quote Posted by jtr7
How would you do the swimming and oceans, pools, bathtubs, canals, and all that water, though? :wot:
I don't know. I guess the mission could be possible also without swimming.. maybe with some invisible wall approximated to the waters.
massimilianogoi on 31/8/2009 at 19:34
Quote Posted by lost_soul
I always figured the original developers were just being lazy... The Unreal engine supports water, and T3 was using a modified version of it. How hard could water possibly be? All it is is a section of the map where the player can "fly" with longer acceleration/deceleration times.
It's not so simple: the commands in T3, if you notice that, are bidirectional, in the XY axis, while in swimming-flying you woud have tri-directional commands with the mouse, like the swimming in Thief 2. And personally, I don't know how to do this.
In counterparts, we can say that we could try to substitute the physics libraries with the ones of Unreal, that supports local gravity and fog, I am already moving about this, but I am very trustless about.
Judith on 31/8/2009 at 20:02
It would be a very nice idea to do some T1/2 OM remake or at least a mission inspired by one of those. Though I'd like to see such thing made entirely out of custom materials and meshes - TDS stock content isn't "high-res" at all, a lot of textures are 256x256 or even 128. This engine can do much more than that.
And Clearing, both examples of OM remakes on Doom 3 engine you showed on those screenshots are actually two extremes, being both a bad approach. First one with high-res textures makes the whole scene look artificial and too clean, lacking some dirt maps, decals and clutter, suitable for next gen games. The second (i.e. using the textures from T2) is ridiculous, for this engine should be used to render things much more complicated than that.
For T3 engine I'd use something in the middle, like 512 textures for surfaces and 1024 for UVW mapped objects. This incarnation of Unreal Engine supports up to 4096px textures, but I think it's a bit unnecessary :)
Stath MIA on 31/8/2009 at 22:15
Dude, feel free to do it. Like jtr's been saying, as long as it's built from scratch and not just a direct port (probably impossible anyway) it's quite legal.
