skacky on 28/3/2019 at 16:17
Look Judith, if your only purpose in life is to slide into threads and start acting like a holier-than-thou, annoying little contrarian you should seriously reconsider because you're certainly not making any friends. You know exactly what the world legal means in this specific context. Using this specific word in this specific context is not unheard of and you're the only one having a problem with it.
Tomi on 28/3/2019 at 16:48
At least I got the impression that Marzec was actually asking about legal stuff, not some contest rules or anything?
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My question is if Looking Glass Studios works are public domain or there is any license allowing it.
I thought that Judith's reply to that was perfectly reasonable, and I wouldn't blame him for derailing this thread.
Judith on 28/3/2019 at 18:16
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You know exactly what the world legal means in this specific context.
No I do not. This is the first time I've saw it used like that. I always saw it being used in these contexts exclusively (
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/legal)
But again, that's not the point, as Marzec actually asked about legal ramifications. And he got an answer. And then the whole bunch of people got offended, because their
feelings about certain matters are not in line with the law. Great work with all the knee-jerk reactions though, I hope you're proud of yourself.
PinkDot on 28/3/2019 at 18:51
Legal does not always mean good or right, and illegal does not always mean bad or wrong. While the letter of law may indicate that derived resources are 'illegal', there is no actual harm being done to anyone. Years of this practice showed that this is a case, as there was no complaint from any game developer nor distributor. In fact, this community is making a big favor to the Thief and SS2 copyrights owners, as this helps selling the product still after 20 years (even if the income is not huge).
That doesn't mean that clarifying the legal status is wrong or is a form of 'attack' on this community. Personally, I'm OK with the knowledge, that this may be an activity at the edge of legality, yet it's so innocent that I have no doubts, that there's nothing wrong with playing around with the original game resources, within the realm of fanmissions. It's a bit like all the fanmission authors are Robin Hoods of digital entertainment. Except that the sheriff of Nottingham doesn't even care about this activity. ;) No, in fact - we've been given the bow and arrows by sheriff, so he must expect and accepts a bit of mess going around in the woods... ;)
So, unlike the real Robin Hood - we can feel safe. :)
urgrue on 28/3/2019 at 19:13
Let's not forget SS2. Are shock-derived resources legal?
Psych0sis on 28/3/2019 at 19:37
(
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/End-user_license_agreement#Shrink-wrap_and_click-wrap_licenses)
Well, I don't remember ever having to hit "I accept" when downloading off steam/GoG, though maybe perhaps there was one for straight installs off the CDs? Also a little dive into looking up court cases provides more examples of it being ruled against if you want to do some snooping.
It seems just like with GDC talks, Judith takes another thing at face value without actually contemplating anything :laff:
downwinder on 28/3/2019 at 20:47
hands Judith a healing fruit scratch and sniff sticker you deserve it
McTaffer on 28/3/2019 at 22:54
Quote Posted by downwinder
hands Judith a healing fruit scratch and sniff sticker you deserve it
For someone who's been arguing that they're grapes for the past several weeks, you've jumped onto the healing fruit bandwagon awfully quickly.
klatremus on 28/3/2019 at 23:54
This was an amusing read, folks. Thanks!
urgrue on 29/3/2019 at 00:13
I've never seen gravy in Thief. Are stock-derived sauces legal?
