PeeperStorm on 6/6/2012 at 06:22
That second picture reminds me of a shot from the video for "French Kissing In The USA". Like maybe he's got a giant propeller-cat penis.
I love this qoute: "...he received his propellers posthumously." I would sincerely hope so.
nicked on 6/6/2012 at 16:51
That cat is a helicopter!
Nooope. It's just Chuck Testa.
BrokenArts on 8/6/2012 at 12:49
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Copy cat.
We have another fellow countrywoman who has been doing this kind of
stuff for years.
No pun intended, of course.
Purgator on 8/6/2012 at 14:42
I'm just thinking of how much fun it would be to mindfuck my neighbour's really annoying dog with one of these babies. Of course there would have to be dive bomb sound effects..MEEEOOOOWWWW! :ebil:
Kolya on 9/6/2012 at 16:32
I read a bit of her website. It seems she likes to imagine herself as avantgarde and in a way she is, when she talks about pets as a commodity and the line between animals for food and pets. But she also employs shock tactics to gain attention, which she probably knows will be negative. And then she thrives on that and feels even more avantgarde when that's just trolling.
Anyway, she would probably be an interesting talk.
Renzatic on 9/6/2012 at 16:45
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...or at least not obscene, to have him do it in death, sort of like dressing grandpa in his favorite baseball team's uniform with a bat and ball.
After having him stuffed, then sitting ole Stuffed Grandpa up in the stands of his favorite local stadium to support the team. Also you implant a replaceable airhorn in his chest so you can slap him on the back and watch him "HOOOONNNNNKKKK" whenever someone hits a home run.
I don't know if helicoptering your recently deceased cat is wrong exactly, but it's most definitely and assuredly a weird thing to do. I know for a fact I wouldn't be able to do it to any of my animals. It'd just depress me watching them fly around, looking otherwise lively despite their blank, dead stare.
demagogue on 9/6/2012 at 17:57
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After having him stuffed, then sitting ole Stuffed Grandpa up in the stands of his favorite local stadium to support the team. Also you implant a replaceable airhorn in his chest so you can slap him on the back and watch him "HOOOONNNNNKKKK" whenever someone hits a home run.
Pretty sure this is what they used to do with Joe Torre, except with baseball signs instead of just honks. God rest his soul.
I think a century from now one of the biggest value differences they'll have with our era is the treatment & place of animals... Just not sure it's completely sunk into the collective consciousness quite yet that we're animals too. And we're still close enough to the ancien régime to not be sure what if anything is wrong here.
ZylonBane on 9/6/2012 at 19:34
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I think a century from now one of the biggest value differences they'll have with our era is the treatment & place of animals...
"Place" of animals? So... what, in a hundred years we'll all be vegetarians and pets will be drawing minimum wage?
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Just not sure it's completely sunk into the collective consciousness quite yet that we're animals too.
WTF. If anything, that notion is receding as human civilization becomes ever more distant from the natural world.
demagogue on 9/6/2012 at 20:08
They'll never get the status of persons, but honestly I think eventually we will all be vegetarians, but just because of the sociology of it. Meat eating cultures will always have people objecting, but vegetarian cultures don't. So even if it's a slow evolution (a century is maybe being too optimistic), it's like a ratchet effect. But it's just a prediction about values. I wasn't even offering any commentary or opinion on it.
I don't think civilization is getting further from the natural world, at least in relative terms. I think most educated people are now on board with humans being "made from" DNA, stem cells, and reproduction. Even the Creationists bite that bullet, and their story is now that God created DNA with Adam and reproduction took over from there (that was not the original Creation narrative).* That wouldn't have been true even in the 70s or 80s, certainly not before the discovery of DNA. And the animal rights movement and animal rights laws were basically non-existent before the mid-70s.
* Edit: I should account for the fact many still back down on the issue of abortion and revert to a moment of magic creation in the womb. But for a lot of other things, even these kinds of people still talk about DNA giving people blue eyes and brown hair and don't seem to worry about the inconsistency.
Actually, what I was really thinking about... I think when neuroscience works out a scientific theory of consciousness so it's no longer even questionable that it comes from the brain & brain only, and that human cns is pretty much indistinguishable from that of other primates (our working memory is much deeper & social learning is more plastic, so we get language & culture, but no reason to think the cns it runs through is any different), that will be the nail in the coffin and people that swallow that pill will change their attitudes about a lot of things, animals included; though like Evolution you'll still have a vast population that it'll take them decades or centuries to swallow it.
Anyway, this is all a different debate than the ethics of remote controlled hovering cat corpses, which I already gave my conflicted opinion about in my first post. I like surrealism -- my avatar on other boards is Andre Breton -- so I totally understood where this was coming from and why it was masterful in its own weird way, with that ridiculous expression & hovering in front of you.