icemann on 12/12/2013 at 14:31
As posted (
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/12/11/youtube-blocks-game-videos-industry-offers-help/) here by RPS
As well as receiving a video on the topic by Angry Joe: (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQfHdasuWtI) here
Youtube has unveiled a blanket money grab to the developers of the game in question on
any video posted which contains footage or sound/music from video games that does not receive permission from the games developer (once the "copyright infringement" is flagged on the video automatically by their new id system), which means that unless this new id system change is removed then this will mean an end to the income of thousands of people whose sole source of income is through their youtube channels that they have invested their lives into (as Angry Joe in the video above mentions).
Unless this gets fixed there is going to be A LOT of angry people out there.
Discuss.
henke on 12/12/2013 at 15:04
If I'm reading that correctly it's not so much a ban, as the money automatically going to the game's publishers rather than the uploader of the videos. Is that right? If so we can all breathe a sigh of relief, safe in the knowledge that my videos won't be going anywhere. I'm not getting a dime of that stuff! After all I'm not in it for the money, only for my (terrible) art.
I do like Two Best Friends Play and some of the Yogscast stuff tho, but I'm sure the bigger names will be able to get by without YouTube. A media server, with a custom flash videoplayer surrounded by a few Google Ads should do an equally good job of monetizing your content. It's a bit more cost and work involved on the part of the content creator though, so for the people who are barely scraping by on what they get from their channels it probably won't do. :erg:
icemann on 12/12/2013 at 15:55
My bad on the original title, I had thought that copyright infringement related matters meant bans on the effected videos.
But either way this is a really bad decision on youtube's part considering how many people on the service make their money through the game reviews that they post regulary. Without that income as Angry Joe stated it would mean that they would have to either stop entirely in order to get a standard job to pay the bills, or significantly reduce the amount of content that they release.
Secondly, game companies should not be receiving even a single dollar from the work done by others who are merely posted their views of a game. Just plain wrong.
Muzman on 12/12/2013 at 16:09
Quote Posted by henke
If I'm reading that correctly it's not so much a ban, as the money automatically going to the game's publishers rather than the uploader of the videos.
People are reporting that it's both actually. The automatic system will find even un-monetised videos and say to monetise them with the proceeds turned over to the supposed copyright holder or have the video blocked and receive a strike.
Briareos H on 12/12/2013 at 16:10
Given the initial responses, no sane publisher is going to want to be seen not giving permission to produce videos using footage from their games' so (
http://letsplaylist.wikia.com/wiki/%22Let%27s_Play%22-friendly_developers_Wiki#Master_List) I wouldn't worry about any sort of ban. As for monetization, if this is what's necessary to stop Machinima and co. from making money then I'm all for it. Youtubers who make money from their gaming-related videos are not interesting anyway.
WingedKagouti on 12/12/2013 at 16:30
Quote Posted by Briareos H
Youtubers who make money from their videos are not interesting anyway.
So you're basically saying that you do not follow ANY regularily updated youtube channel at all?
Briareos H on 12/12/2013 at 16:37
I forgot to add that this was said in a videogaming context. I've never seen a gaming-related Youtube channel with tons of views that interested me, no. While I would be sad to see the likes of (
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxt9Pvye-9x_AIcb1UtmF1Q) ashens disappear, as he mostly reviews physical objects that are difficult to see anywhere else but on his channel, game LPs and reviews by people who don't make any money from their views are legion.
It's so easy to record a game and talk over it. But that's a subjective opinion, of course. On the other hand, seeing multi-channel networks make profit from others' work, even though they agreed to, makes me a bit sad: if these guys get their part of the share, then I don't see why the game publishers shouldn't. The current implementation leaves to be desired, and I would appreciate a way to dispatch the money generated by views fairly between the various parties instead of a "everything to the publisher" stance, but nothing in the concept behind this new regulation strikes me as unfair.
Briareos H on 12/12/2013 at 17:02
That's a great video.
Muzman on 12/12/2013 at 17:30
There's a whole lot of racing to just LP the latest big name game with commentary and doing nothing else,or even playing it badly on purpose. That's a whole area you probably wouldn't lose anything much if it went away.
But anything older or slightly more obscure really doesn't need to be policed.
This doesn't seem like its designed to police that sort of stuff anyway (and companies are racing to say they don't care. Well, the ones that haven't already tried to destroy this stuff as it is. I doubt Sega have changed their opinion for instance).
As ever with this stuff, I bet it'll be scattershot and unjust and generally miss all the things its supposedly aimed at. Some kid with ten seconds of music will get slammed the second it goes up. Whole movies and TV shows will continue to go untouched for years.
It's a nice little taster for our future of semi automated law enforcement.
